Interview Rejection: Humiliation via PowerPoint

Is it within forum protocol to gripe about a job interview rather than a job? I think this one deserves one or two (2) blogs.

I'm a grad student getting his Masters in accounting. I'll be done in six months, and I'm in the midst of hunting down a job. I'm in a southeastern state university, and there is some level of representation from all of the Big Four in this area, as well as half a dozen or more of the second-tier worldwide and regional firms. If that isn't enough of a clue for you: I'm in the Carolinas. So you might figure out who I'm talking about on your own if you're familiar with the industry.

What I'm sharing with you is the kind of thing that (a) I shouldn't take personally, (b) just part of the game, and (c) probably builds character, or some such bullshit, but it pisses me off anyway. I think it's the official genesis of a soon-to-be lifetime hatred of HR departments.

One month ago today I interviewed for a tax position with a not-quite Big Four firm here in town. I saw that I was one of four interviews that day, but from talking to the others and listening to conversations, I could tell that I was easily the most qualified (I was the only grad student and the only one with a tax degree). I though the interview went well, as I was asking a lot of questions and building a good rapport with my various interviewers. Something struck me strange though that almost half of the people I was supposed to speak with--all seniors and managers--happened NOT to be there that day for various reasons. Pretty unprofessional, I thought, that they'd schedule an interview and no one be there to talk to. I wound up spending 75% of the day with associates and ...*shudder*... interns.

I was supposed to hear back in one week. A week goes by. 10 days go by. I fire off a couple of emails, and I get the whole, "Somebody's supposed to do something and talk to somebody and this and that." Finally, 2 weeks and 3 days after my interview, I get a FORM LETTER REJECTION BY EMAIL. The rudest kind of email!

Of course it was the whole, "It's not you, it's us" kind of thing. "It's not that you're not super-duper! We wish we could clone you and hire you twice! It's just that it's a really, really competitive market." I'm to infer from this statement that they chose a better candidate. Okay, so I was a little hurt by this for a while--I mean, I thought since I was technically very qualified for the position, it must have been because they just didn't like me. That can be a little hard to handle, but you let it go and move on.

So this morning, I take a bus trip to Charlotte for a tour of several firms with my college accounting society. I'm suffering the indignation of traveling with a bus load of undergrads, since I'm like the last remaining grad student without a job. One of the firms on the list is the one I applied with. At first I thought it might be best to just stay on the bus and read the paper during that one, but no; the bus always left us to go park somewhere and I didn't want to do that.

Then I see a coffee shop in the lobby, and my gut tells me, "Order some coffee and park it for an hour," but I say, "No. Be the bigger man. Just go up there and listen to the presentation. This is a different branch with different people. No reason to hold a grudge here." Wrong!

I get upstairs and who do I see but the same two HR harlots I met at my interview! They're splitting their time between offices! And they don't even recognize me! Or at least they pretend not to. It's only been a month guys, and I'm weird-looking enough not to forget.

Now here comes the bruising insult. It's almost as if this firm went out of its way to shove it right up my ass that I didn't get hired. They break out the PowerPoint, and the first slide they throw up is a list of all the students they've recently hired from my school. So I get to sit there and look at a dozen names of people I know, people in my classes, PEOPLE WHO'S ASSES I KICK UP AND DOWN THE HALLS EVERY DAY who were obviously better than me. I have never seen a firm do this--parade out the names of people that haven't even started yet.

But I like to think I have a strong constitution, and I did everything I could to let it go. These people were hired BEFORE me, right? So it's still possible that I was just too late. Just too late.

At the end of the presentation, the HR harpies announce that they'll be coming to campus next week for additional recruiting because they're "still looking." Still looking. Any shred of self-respect I had is now totally evaporated. It is unequivocal now--they'd rather risk NOT FILLING a position for the year than have hired me. Oooooorgh!

What makes this so enraging to me is that they had reason to know I was there. They had the guest list. Did they overlook it, or just not care? Did they think I wasn't important enough to alter their presentation? Well I don't know who they're hoping to find, because I was pretty much all they had to choose from at this point.


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Submitted by antilles1974 on Sat, 02/09/2008 - 16:16.

If this is how they roll then it's not a place you want to waste your time with.

I've had my share of run-ins with idiotic HR personnel. That's why they are in HR.

Look at this as a blessing in disguise. You've now singled out the one firm you now know is worthless. Start focusing on places that will appreciate your skills.

Submitted by pug66 on Sun, 02/10/2008 - 12:39.

You actually got a rejection email after an interview?

Holy crapola, I never receive ANY rejection letters, emails, phone calls, etc., after I am rejected at an interview. Nothing.

Count yourself lucky that they took the time to at least tell you you were rejected for the job. How about being interviewed for a job, then at the end of the interview the HR a*holes tell you all cheery "we'll definitely be in touch!"

Then two weeks later after hearing NOTHING, you see the job you interviewed for once again advertised in the paper. Yup, rejected by Powerpoint, rejected by the employment ads -- it's all crap when looking for yet another dime a dozen JOB.

As to expecting the HR a*holes to recognize you the second time you came into the company -- bah, hah, hah! Never going to happen. I know, I used to work in an HR department (as the lowly computer geek). The majority of people who work in HR recruiting have IQs lower than 85. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer and that's saying a lot.

I have had numerous interviews where the HR a*hole would start interviewing me and look down at the *wrong* resume in front of her and then proceed to call me by the wrong name. I would let her continue commenting on the wrong person's glowing resume and experience, then I would politely tell her she had the wrong resume in front of her.

That usually ended the interview right quick.

Just to let you know, I doubt that firm you interviewed with went out of their way to humiliate you with their Powerpoint presentation. Really, they don't even know who you are, nor do they care. They are mindless drones, working for a mindless crappy accounting firm.

I've had a few interviews with supposed *big* law firms and they are filled with drooling seat sitters who can't even remember their computer password (that they use every day) let alone someone that came in to interview five minutes ago.

Anyway, take your rejection at that firm as a blessing in disguise. I always do when I am rejected at interviews. I'm guessing you didn't get hired because you were over qualified. If HR even gets a whiff that the person they are interviewing is quick, has lots of experience and is much smarter than the average drone that works there -- a red flag goes up and you are instantly rejected. Most jobs are only looking for say-nothing, do-nothing, seat sitters.

They are *safe* employees who don't rock the boat.

Sounds like you would do well in a smaller firm, perhaps a small business where you can find an entrepreneurial owner who isn't afraid of quick, smart employees.

Submitted by MrPlankton  on Mon, 02/11/2008 - 16:26.

No one gives a shit if you have a Masters, who the hell cares. I have a masters in CS and it never did anything for me. What matters is are you nice, can you talk to the client with out pissing them off, can you address basic subject matter criteria, and of course are you in the target quota of race and ethnicity.

Get over it. Push on.

Mr. Plankton

Submitted by Timberwolf on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 12:07.

I'm not boasting on my degree--in this type of accounting it's basically a prerequisite for hire. State licensing boards require so many credit hours of education to sit for the CPA exam. That's what struck me--the other candidates didn't have one, which meant if they hired them, the company would likely have to pay for them to get additional credits to qualify.

Submitted by Timberwolf on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 12:04.

Yesterday I got this cryptic email from the company that simply said, "In order to be considered for this position, you will need to fill out an assessment. Click here." That's it--then there was a link to something. I thought it looked suspicious, so I ignored it.

Three minutes later, another one came, but this one was more detailed. It had the same link, but seemed more legitimate. "We ask that you complete the following assessment to be considered for _____ position 2008 blah blah blah." I followed the link and it took me to a company profile sign-in page. I thought, what in the hell does this mean?

A moment after that email I get a third one--this time from the OTHER HR woman, only it was the exact same form letter rejection I got from the first one.

WHAT DO THEY WANT FROM MEEE?!?!